跟 vs 对 (with vs toward) · 跟 vs 对 (avec vs envers)
A partner marker does not guarantee a reply
- You tell someone the news, without saying whether they answered.
- 我跟他说了这个消息。 — 跟 introduces the person addressed in this context.
A partner marker does not guarantee a reply
- You tell someone the news, without saying whether they answered.
- I / me我with / and跟he / him他variant of 说说(completed / change)了this这个news消息。 — with / and跟 introduces the person addressed in this context.
You tell someone the news, without saying whether they answered. What does 我跟他说了这个消息。 communicate?
跟 introduces the person addressed in this context. 跟他商量 implies joint discussion, but 跟他说 does not itself prove a two-way exchange. 对他说 also directs speech towards him.
Build the form
- The pattern in this lesson is 跟 vs 对 (with vs toward). Locate it in the original interlinear examples below.
- Keep the words in their demonstrated positions; the pattern must fit the intended situation as well as the sentence form.
I我with跟him他discuss商量。
Build the form
- The pattern in this lesson is with / and跟 vs to / towards / correct对 (with vs toward). Locate it in the original interlinear examples below.
- Keep the words in their demonstrated positions; the pattern must fit the intended situation as well as the sentence form.
I我with跟him他discuss商量。
Using the lesson pattern in this demonstrated example: He smiled at me: 他 ____ 我笑了。
对 = to / toward (one-way): 对我笑了. · 对 = à / envers (unilatéral) : 对我笑了.
Read examples in context
he他toward对me我smile笑了。
- In the opening example, 我跟他说了这个消息。: 跟 introduces the person addressed in this context.
- Explain who acts, what is described and which time or group is relevant before choosing an English paraphrase.
Read examples in context
he他toward对me我smile笑了。
- In the opening example, I / me我with / and跟he / him他variant of 说说(completed / change)了this这个news消息。: with / and跟 introduces the person addressed in this context.
- Explain who acts, what is described and which time or group is relevant before choosing an English paraphrase.
Which word fits the ordinary joint-discussion expression ____他商量?
跟他商量 is a joint discussion. 跟他说 does not itself prove that the other person replied.
Know the boundary
- 跟他商量 implies joint discussion, but 跟他说 does not itself prove a two-way exchange.
- 对他说 also directs speech towards him.
Know the boundary
- with / and跟he / him他to consult商量 implies joint discussion, but with / and跟he / him他variant of 说说 does not itself prove a two-way exchange.
- to / towards / correct对he / him他variant of 说说 also directs speech towards him.
跟他说 proves that the listener took a turn replying.
跟 can introduce a conversational partner or addressee. A reply is not asserted in 跟他说 alone.
In the opening situation: 跟 introduces the person addressed in this context.
跟他商量 implies joint discussion, but 跟他说 does not itself prove a two-way exchange. 对他说 also directs speech towards him. 跟 introduces the person addressed in this context.
Use the distinction
- 跟 introduces the person addressed in this context.
- 跟他商量 implies joint discussion, but 跟他说 does not itself prove a two-way exchange. 对他说 also directs speech towards him.
Read the full reference: HSK 5 grammar — Comparing similar conjunctions.
Use the distinction
- with / and跟 introduces the person addressed in this context.
- with / and跟he / him他to consult商量 implies joint discussion, but with / and跟he / him他variant of 说说 does not itself prove a two-way exchange. to / towards / correct对he / him他variant of 说说 also directs speech towards him.
Read the full reference: HSK 5 grammar — Comparing similar conjunctions.